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Mast Rl 28
I am in the process of restoring a Rl 28 and it has been suggested by a rigger upon inspection that I replace the mast and consider going to a taller mast and sails when I do. Has anyone done this? Had any insights? Problems with weather helm and balance?
Lawrence Dorsett12-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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Keeley Marine made your original mast.

https://www.keeleymarine.com.au/

The standard rig is well proven.

If you desire to race with crew, you might want a bigger rig with a greater handicap, but if you are a cruiser with occasional racing, a standard rig will be best.

New sails on a standard rig are a nice thing to have.
greg12-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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A couple of questions
1. why did the rigger suggest a new mast ?
Mine over the years has had the exit blocks at its base refitted and corrosion was an issue so i have sleeved from base to gooseneck and moved halyard exits to a more modern approach ie simple slots well above the gooseneck to external turning blocks mounted at the mast step
2. what length is the mast ?
3. Greg , what do you consider "standard " my understanding is the ex charter boats had a shorter mast in comparison to the non charter boats , not sure if this is correct ?
shane12-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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Charter yachts had a reduced sail.

I doubt the mast was reduced.

For some reason, non standard rigs have issues. Probably associated with furlers and old sails.
greg12-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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Thanks for comments. Very much appreciated. I don't know a lot about masts. It had been painted previously and I took it to a rigger for examination. The feedback was that it was in poor condition for an eventual cruise up coast. It is the standard mast height 8.23 metres. The suggestion of the taller mast was that the larger mast and sails would then give higher performance in lighter conditions .
Lawrence Dorsett12-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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Shane, in the late 70s, I looked at buying a charter yacht. There was no mention of a shorter mast but some yachts may have worked with limited bridge clearance problems.

I'm not experienced with the RL28s. I tried to help others with rig problems but they were not prepared to restore their rigs to standard.

I'd be very reluctant to change the standard rig listed on this site.

If refitting an RL28 rig, I'd be adding lazyjacks single line reefing on the number 3 reef, slugs on the mainsail and full batton mainsail.

Furlers are a poor compromise on lighter fractional rigs like the RL28. A double forestay with twin halyards and downhauls would be my choice for coastal cruising. Or a headsail with reefing points.

I'd also stay clear of yachts that have been in survey, the extra ballast is for people who can't sail.
greg13-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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I have a history of racing performance dinghys and yachts. Before and since buying my 28 I have agonised about getting a larger rig. My sailing mates tease me and say sabots have larger mainsails than RL28s. Hey, why stop there. Drop keel, bigger sail plan etc etc.
Truth is you will still have an overweight, dated and overbuilt vessel. I bought my boat as a cruising boat, if I wanted a sports boat I would buy one.
I have heard of people who put 18foot rigs on these boats. Bear in mind that these rigs are designed to drive a planing hull that weighs a few hundred kilos, not a mighty RL28.
robin13-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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a previous owner fitted my RL 28 has an extended mast and boom, each about a metre longer.
She also has a traveler across the cockpit seats.
we only cruise in her but she is very quick, I guess we just have to put a reef in a bit before a standard rid would. I don't have any great issues with balance!
The only disadvantage I have found is the mast is a bit of a handful to raise and lower, but that is more an issue of working out a better method.
Jason 15-Dec-2017    Edit    Delete 
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this pic of an rl currently for sale appears to have a shorter mast and no sign of upper diamonds
shane2-Jan-2018    Edit    Delete 
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I'd be interested to know how many people have increased the size of their mast when replacing an RL28 mast and/or boom. I know some of the South Oz RL28s have opted for bigger rigs.
I had an interesting 3 days racing up here with the boat performing well so long as heel is limited. We kicked butt on the big reaching course and with the mast head kite in over 15knots of breeze. Outsailed Sonata26, Noelex25 and Seaway25.
Nonetheless, I lost the top batten and need to repair the top batten pocket. One needs to consider how much more one should maintain a 28 year old sail. I am holding off until I make a decision about the rig. Truth is I would like a longer boom and roachier main, not so sure about a taller mast, depends on the price I guess. I will keep the backstay as I run a masthead spinnaker.
Robin2-Feb-2018    Edit    Delete 
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I wonder how many 28s out there have modified rigs. I had an interesting couple of days racing up here with the boat performing well so long as heel is limited. Running a masthead kite and looking at that photo I decided that I will keep the backstay, lol.
I would be interested in a longer boom and roachier main and am holding off getting a new main until I make a decision. I am not so sure about the mast, depends on cost. I don't think the ballast ratio and especially draft of the keel in it's current configuration will do a taller rig justice, but some more herbies would be nice.
robin2-Feb-2018    Edit    Delete 
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I wonder how many 28s out there have modified rigs. I had an interesting couple of days racing up here with the boat performing well so long as heel is limited. Running a masthead kite and looking at that photo I decided that I will keep the backstay, lol.
I would be interested in a longer boom and roachier main and am holding off getting a new main until I make a decision. I am not so sure about the mast, depends on cost. I don't think the ballast ratio and especially draft of the keel in it's current configuration will do a taller rig justice, but some more herbies would be nice.
robin2-Feb-2018    Edit    Delete 
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I'd be curious to know how many RL28s have extended rigs. I was talking to a fellow down in South Oz who was saying a few boats down there have longer masts.
We had a good few days racing up here with the boat performing well, especially on the big reaches and runs in heavier air with the masthead kite. Upwind in 18 knots true we hung in there, just, with the noelex 25, seaway 25 and sonata 26 so long as heel was limited.
Anyway I am tempted to get a new main but am holding off until I make a decision about mast/ booms. Thinking about a longer boom, RL28 main aspect ratio is pretty low anyway! My big concern is the current keel depth will not handle a taller rig, we go sideways well enough already.
Decisions decisions.
robin4-Feb-2018    Edit    Delete 

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