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forestays on RL 28
I bought my RL over three years ago and due to an accident, am only now able to start thinking about getting it going. Unfortunately I cannot remember much about getting the mast up on the thing.
It appears to have 2 forestays.is this right, and where do they attach?
If some one could put a photo on with both (I think) attached I would appreciate it very much
P Taylor1-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
There are definately 2 forstays there...........one mast head and the other at the spreaders (3/4).
I am slightly puzzled at how the sails would perform during a tack, surely they must foul!.
I hope I am correct in assuming the forestay attaches to a point at the front of the anchor rope bay. There is a chain with a turnbuckle there.......but beside it is also a 3:1 pulley system with shackles on it (to attach to the other forstay??). There is also another substantial point to attach something on the anchor bow roller base
P. Taylor6-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
Our RL28 has a mast head rig and also has an inner forestay.
The inner forestay attaches to a U bolt between the mast and the foreward hatch. Have a look at the photos in the "Tips & Modification" section titled "Mast raising and bow roller for a RL28.
Kay & Kingsley white
Rings-n-things
kingsley white6-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
The 3/4 forestay connected inside the front of the anchor well is the standard setup. Non-furling headsails connect to the forestay with hanks and at the foot to the same fixing point as the forestay. To cater for the different sized headsails (No.1, 2, 3, etc) there would be shackles on wires or chainplates of different lengths for each headsail.
Tacking with a masthead rig (plus an inner forestay) would only be practical with a self-furling headsail. Perhaps at this point it would help if we knew what headsails came with the yacht. With self-furling headsails, the forestay attachment may vary with different self-furler makes.


Michael Oakley8-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
We sometimes rig Rings-n-things as a cutter with twin headsails. When useing this rig the inner forestay is attached to the U bolt fitted in front of the forward hatch. With the masthead forestay attached to the bow and the inner forestay to the mast at the 3/4 position the two stays are nearly parallel, this allows us to carry the two sails. We were lucky in that we had two sails that set well when the sheets for the head sails were passed through the same blocks.
Kay & Kingsley White
Rings-n-things

kingsley white9-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
There is no U bolt between the mast and hatch and we do not have furling jibs or genoa.
I think I will have to get out the camera.
Do I need to send my photos to "Photobucket" first or can I download directly from my own files?
P Taylor11-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
You have already found the U bolt for the normal forestay. You say it has a chain and turnbuckle plus a 3-1 pulley attached. The pulley may be there just to tension the forestay before connecting to the chain.
If you unpack your sails and measure them against the forestays, it will answer the question as to whether you do in fact have a masthead headsail.
Does the mast have a masthead halyard for hoisting the sail? In addition to the 3/4 forestay and 3/4 wire halyard, there would also be a masthead forestay plus a masthead halyard. The mastheaad wire may just be a spinnaker halyard.
Don't send photos straight from the camera. I use a free program called Irfanview (irfanview.com) to downsize the picture file before emailing. I presume this is what your 'photobucket' is doing.

Michael Oakley12-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
I will check it all out over the week-end. Thank you for that information.
P Taylor13-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
Closer look has revealed...........masthead forestay has also a halyard (rope) probably for the spinnaker...........3/4 forestay attaches to the 3:1 pulley system where there is also a halyard
They both attach at the point at the front of the anchor well. I hope the picture comes down to help. I still think this system could prove troublesome!
P Taylor15-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
Do you have a masthead genoa?
The normal RL28 fractional rig has an adjustable backstay to bend the mast and flatten the mainsail. Masthead rigs as with say, a Sonata 7, usually have an inner forestay which can be tensioned to pull (bend) the mast foreward to flatten the main. The lower end of the inner forestay must attach much closer to the mast so as not to foul the genoa during a tack.
So again, it's hard to figure this out without first checking the sails.


Michael Oakley16-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
I have sent some photos off that should make everthing a lot clearer.
I do have an adjustable back stay ( as useful as a pocket in a hat on a mast head rig!).....has a 'diamond' stays setup.......2 halyards from the top of the mast, 1 from the 3/4 point.
I must say though that raising the mast was a 'doddle' with the pulley system on the lower forstay..my wife on the pulley while I assisted and steadied the mast made light work of it......and we are both 60!..........However from the photos that may accompany this saga we might get the mast with both stays installed correctly....I wouldn't like to rely on a bit of 10mm rope tied off, albeit via a cam cleat to hold the mast up!
My Sonata 7 had a 3/4 rig
P Taylor16-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28
Heres a thought...........maybe I just use the 3/4 set up to get the mast up......connect the mast head rig..then some how tuck the 3/4 rig away..................hmmmmmmmmm.
P Taylor16-Sep-2007    Edit    Delete 
Re: forestays on RL 28 - Pictures of rig

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